![]() ![]() Have you managed to get any writing done at all since I spoke to you a couple of years ago?ĬHAPEYE: Well, I tried several times because there are periods of time when you pretty much have a lot of leisure which is forced upon you. As you say, how could you know?ĬHAPEYE: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know it's irrational, but I feel pretty sorry that I didn't show my love for the last time. Of course, I didn't know it would be his last mission. And what I feel sorry about is that, at the time, like, I didn't come up and hug him. And at the moment, I didn't know about it, but he was killed by that second rocket. So I saw the first rocket, and I ran away to the shelter. Were you with him?ĬHAPEYE: We were about half a kilometer apart at the moment. And I can say that I have been working with a psychotherapist for a year now, and I have been on antidepressants for half a year - well, basically since my friend died. And I was, of course, pretty much depressed after that. The worst thing that happened was when my best friend was killed by Russians in August. Basically, what war was for me is it's, like, routine and sometimes even boring and then unexpected tragedy. Like, as I'm trying to watch, like, Hollywood blockbusters now, I understand how different they are from the reality. ![]() I was in the military police, including in Donetsk region. KELLY: Have you seen combat? I mean, tell me what you've been doing.ĬHAPEYE: I can now talk more or less freely about what I have been doing in a previous unit. I have been in Ukraine all this time.ĬHAPEYE: I was able to get out several times, but generally I've been serving these two years. So at the moment, I'm in a safe place.ĬHAPEYE: Sure. Where are you? Can you say?ĬHAPEYE: Well, as usual, it's inadvisable to say the exact location, but I can say that, at the moment, I'm back from the front lines. Artem, I'm so glad to speak with you again. I can't believe it's been two years.ĬHAPEYE: At the moment, better than before, I would say. KELLY: Since that interview two years ago, I have wondered about Artem Chapeye - how he was getting on. I tried writing something like war diaries, but I'm not sure. Like, you're just afraid for your own life, and you don't know if you'll survive. Like, you just are afraid, like, this - at this animal level where your stomach hurts. And I asked whether he was managing to get any writing done.ĪRTEM CHAPEYE: Well, to be honest, today was a hard day. You could hear shelling behind him as we spoke. We caught him on a break, sitting under a tree. He's a writer and had just become a soldier, a private fighting in the Ukrainian army. Back in 2022, a few weeks after Russia invaded Ukraine, I called a Ukrainian man named Artem Chapeye. ![]()
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